It happened few days ago. In the Gimnazjum (Junior High School) number 2 in Gdańsk (I live there), a 14 years old girl comitted suicide. I know this place. It happened during the lessons when the teacher left the class beacuse she had to go for some kind of the meeting. 2 guys came to her then stripped her naked and the 3rd one filmed all the thing. After this the girl wore her clothes and ran home. The day after she was found dead in her room hanged on the childish skipping-rope. She couldn't stand the humiliation that guys did to her. As I read, it happened beacuse she refused to date one of those boys and she pissed him off. I wonder what would I do if this happened to me. I just don't understand why that guys just did this!? What is your opninion about this.

That is just plain fucked up.

My heart goes out to the family, and I hope that they sue the school, and the kids responsible.. I hope that they are able to find peace.

If it had to have been me:

1. I would have told my parents, and gotten them involved..

2. I would have also told the principal and had them tell the boy's parent's..

3. I would sue them for every dime they had.

4. I would then have them jumped by some of my friends, or have them "taken care of" by some of my people.

They would not be killed, but by the time they were finished they would have wished that they were dead.

This is exactly why you have kids bringing guns and weapons to school.

They figure that the schools and the parents won't protect them, and so, they take matters into their own hands.

The parent's and the school doesn't wnat to get involved because they figure that "kids will be kids" and unfortunately, they don't do shit unless something catastrophic happens, like a school shooting, suicide, or murder.

In the class she were, there was some problem with the behavior of the class. Of course no one took care of it. The teacher should find some other person to stay with the class. She didn't do it, so she will also get some consequences. Guys who did this will go to juvenile prison.

Yes, but even so, the kids, ESPECIALLY, at that age should be able to behave themselves, or like you said, if they had behavioral problems, then the teacher should have found a substitute to stand in for her.

Either way, the school dropped the ball on that one.

I ran some time ago into site where there was a lot of some kind of that stories, but there were mostly a bullsh!t so I didn't care. When I heard, that some thing like that happened for real and it drove someone to death I changed my view for that things. I will never go to that site again. :...:

A BALL? they dropped a freaking anvil...

they probalby knew stuff like this was happening, they just didn't care until all of a sudden bam, some one dies and now they're going to say "we had no clue, and we'll try everything we can to see it doesn't happen again, the offenders will be punished"

as far as the staff goes they failed to even attempt to help her, she was living a nightmare and none of the staff tried to help her, they never reached out, and they never tried to prevent stuff like this from happening, they needed to make a stand and show they were serious about this sort of situation, but did they? NO, they were pasive about it and hoped "it'll never happen to us." and sure those kids'll be punished...
but in reality those kids who did this are going to get off, by the time they turn 18 (or of legal age of being an adult) their criminal records will be wiped and they'll have a fresh start, their records will be buried and they won't have to worry about it. It'll be as if it never happened to them, even with the video, all that does is prove they did it, and they could confess already and still not get very harsh punishments, the girl's family had no chance to help her and stop this.

Trust me, in this country it happens a LOT..

in the city, kids who have a problem with each other in school, fight.. and after the fight, especially if they have ties to gangs, drive-bys occur.

You even have kids who bullly other kids online.. one kid was being bullied in school.. the girl he liked , pretended that she liked him, and then turned on him and humiliated him..

He was talking to this kid online, and said that he was thinking about killing himself..

The other kid said "ya you should do it.. nobody likes you anyway, so you should kill yourself.."

The kid hung himself.

There are also a lot of kids who have died as a result of the injuries received at the hands of a bully.

Kids today are fucked up individuals.. you can raise them to do the right thing, and try to do your best to make sure that they are good kids, and they will still end up either being a bully, or a victim at the hands of a bully.

Sometimes the kids being picked on will go to their parent's.. and the parent's will either say "defend yourself" or "talk it out" or if the parent's do take it seriously, and tell the school, then the teacher will likely say "kids will be kids"

At that point the kid feels that there is no hope.

At that point, they will take matters into their own hands.. whatever that may be.. so don't be so quick to write it off as bullshit.

It happens a lot more often than you think.

That's just so awfull...it's incredible what childish people do whenever someone don't do what they want...still i don't think that it was reason enough for her to kill herself, but then again it hapened to her not to me...i can't realy argue about this...she's the only one that knew what was going on her mind...

Thats so stupid, if this happened to my school those three will be in big trouble by the princible or worse, expeled! And if she was in my class I would try to cheer her up.

Besides in my school, there aren't alot of bulling because its difficult to do it here. :evilgrin:

Th wrost thing is that no one helped her. Even boys from her class. Not to mention that no one told before that event what actually happened. Tommorow will be her funeral.

Well if it was you at the age of 14 it would proberbly be a different story...

She would of been scared to death probably.
Her parents may be the type that don't care for her
Maybe her life was crap already

These are the things you would need to know to figure out what you would do

I've tried commiting suicide from bullying and so i know how depressed you have to be to commit suicide. You've also got to have the will to commit suicide but since you know theres no going back its seems easier when you think of it than doing it

I know your pain. I can't count how many times I was in hospital because of bullies. My disease didn't help it though. Nose bleeding, big dark bruises, one time I even felt unconscious on the floor beacuse of the hit. One time I even wanted to jump from the window, but I live on the 2nd floor so I would probably survive :-[ Now I'm in the high school and it's a good school with high rated teaching.

That's just it.. it was me at the age of 14..

..and at the age of 13..

..and at the age of 12..

..and at the age of 11..

In fact, all the way down until 7..

I wasn't picked on in high school, but I was picked on in junior high, elementary school, and by the kids around my own neighborhood..

They'd pick on me because I was the smart one, or because I worde "hand-me-downs" or because of the fact that I wore glasses..

At one point, my glasses looked like Steve Urkel's or Sally Jesse Raphael's

I just got tired of being the "victim"

I said to myself, "I am already getting hurt when they hit, and make fun of me, so I might as well take my chances and fight back"

And I did..

I fought back tooth and nail.. and I used whatever I had to my disposal.

So yeah, it was me at 14, and I felt that there was no hope, because the teachers wouldn't do shit, and neither would my parents..

My parent's didnt notice until I got a letter home from school saying that I was fighting in school..

I told my mother why I was fighting and she didn't punish me.

As said, I was bullied but I got tired of being hurt because I was a victim, and I fought back.

I think at some point in a kid's life, they reach that point, and fight back, but unfortunately, it is not at the age of 14.

Back then, if you fought your bully, he/she would stop picking on you, and it is likely that you'll never be picked on again.

In my case, I gained their respect, and they ended up being friends with me.. (we don't talk now) or if it was a guy, they ended up wanting me.. (I SWEAR I am not making this up.)

Nowadays, if you fight your bully, there is a chance you can get shot or stabbed after school, or even shot while you are in school..

So either way, no matter what you do, you are screwed. :(

Well after i got pushed down the stairs and fell unconsious my parents found out... After the school held it back for a month... then I put up with it for a while... then i had a fight... Now it's back and i'm ready to step up if it gets to bad... But i'm still dealing with it today since i'm not exactly the strongest of people.

Though i found out it's not effecting my grades and i'm getting above average for the end of this school year... and it's only half way through the first term.

The thing that stopped me trying to commit suicide was when it was about to slit my wrists and my friend stopped me... He grabbed the knife quickly and asked me why i was doing it... I broke down in tears and we had a conversation (His mother is a psycoligist so he knew how to do that) and he said that his life would be nothing without a good a firend as me... since then i've nether thought about it

Also in this country i highly doubt they'll have guns... there are barely any guns in this country... but some people have been using fireworks and tubes as rocket lauchers... Lucky i had my friend who had a mobile and the police sorted it out... Stabbed is possible but they wouldn't know where to find me since i don't live in the same village as them... They would have to come here and assault me... even then my friend is teaching a bit of karate and atm i know how to use a knife... he's gonna teach me how to fight someone with a knife soon.

Friends are the things that hold it all together... I stopped my friend from being depressed... he told me he was a homosexual (this is a different friend btw) And i said "i don't care as long as you're still breathing through your lungs I'll love you as my friend and for what you are"

Depression is like the drug in suicides

life is rough for kids, but what we need to focus on is making sure what has happened in the past NEVER happens again. NO school shootings, stabbings, bullies, etc.
The administration of these places are responisible for each and every person as long as they inside that building during operating hours. They have a moral obligation to treat every complaint or cry for help as legitimate and to look into it IMMEDIATELY, and help resolve it quick. If it's a bully, kick him/her out or school, immediate expulsion, thats a wake up. then if they continue, the local police need to be informed.

I know what it's like to be bullied, I was on the reciveing end of a bully who was atleast 6'5" and 250lbs in jr high compared to my 4'10" - 5'0" 130-140lbs
needless to say i was both a verbal and physical punching bag, with not a helluva lot I could do about it,
this went on til grade 10 and no one really ever found out what was happening in my family,only my cousin, (who is actually smaller than i am now) is the only one who knows much of anything (and thats cause he heard some of what was being said and told the guy off.)
(in the summer of grade 9 i grew a fair bit, and i grew even more in grade 10's summer, then just the final bit in gr 12 summer to put me at my current 5'10"- 5'11" 205 lbs now)

I still occasionally see the guy that did this, and to be completely honest, i have the most difficult time from keeping myself from leaping across the room and ripping his esophagus out of his throat, or atleast pummeling him into a 250 lb bag of cow s**t.

You're lucky you have friends. My friends left me beacuse of my disease (or maybe they have never been my friends) I still remember their stupid insults:
-Maran, are you going to play football with us?
-I can't, but I can go with you and watch.
-Yeah? Beacuse you're a p*ssy.
-No, I can't play beacuse I'm ill.
-Whatever hemo-f^g.
I still can't understand them. They're calling everyone gay, jews and other ones which harm other people. I could write a lot of these guys, but I would go too much off-topic :lol: Anyway, I just wonder how I'm supposed to live in society like this... Or am I supposed to live in it? :(

Dam... They're taking advantage of your disease what is sad... the worst part is is that if you came back with any clever combacks they've got a complete advantage.... Thats low :(

Well if they say "Ey Thomas your gay!" I'll say "Takes one to know one" then if he walks up to me and says "Do you want to say that to my face?" I'll step back "Not that one, no" that leaves em with nothing to talk about and they can't start a fight in a hallway with teachers in :p

I'm offended by that,I'm not.

As for what happened,I feel sorry for the girl.

While some kids are fucked up,some have sense.

The school is the one to blame,as well as the kids.

Fair enough, I apologize for offending you.

Most kids are fucked up individuals.

Not all, but most of them are.

Today in all of the schools in my country we had a minute of silence because of this event :-_-: Although it last only 8 seconds in my school :ph43r: I hope that her soul will go to heaven or whereever people feel good after death.

Gee, thats pretty sad.

I remember in 6th grade I was always picked on. I became so depressed, I had no sense what so ever. I hardly covered a logical manner and so I just thought about killing myself. Life seemed like a single depressant for me, everyone seemed against me. I didn't have a lot of friends and all I could think about was dieing.

I didn't have the will for it even when I tried. The worst part is that when i tried I was alone and no one was there to stop me. In my depression I had to come to my own senses. I did so and told myself, "What's it worth?" I always thought that no one would care if I just suddenly vanished from the planet without an explanation but then I remembered my family and the little amounts of friends that I have. Those thoughts kept me going.

I still feel depression to this day. I'm sad even when I'm happy. I feel ignored and often am insulted. It's never by one person either, it's by a group. Then people simply look at what's happening and don't say a word. They just act as bistanders and watch the event. Sometimes they join in. My friends rarely help me in those situations. I don't know if it's that they don't know how to or if they just don't want to. It's killing me though because I know I'm going to have to face something everyday I go to school.

I also don't have the will to fight back. I'm strong and athletic but I'm not the type to go and start fights. I try to avoid them. I'm not a good socializer either so when they verbally assault me I can't say anything back.

TBH I'm probably one of them

I had a fight (More like a target practice on me) at school today and i'm still upset about it... It bloody hurt aswell... But it wasn't exactly at school it was on the bus home... but i didn't get really beaten up so much they just said some things that upset me (I mean really... really upset me)... I'm a tiny bit better now... I've got one of my friends on msn atm trying to reassure me :'(