Title: PC Specs
technogeek - April 19, 2007 06:38 PM (GMT)
All right lets start with this ten
What type of computer, motherboard and processor do u have?
and how much memory?
Black Angel - April 19, 2007 06:51 PM (GMT)
Technogeek, I split your topic because the person you responded to hasn't been on since 2006, and I thought that this would make a good topic ok? :)
I'll let Mr. Nest post the specs of his laptop since he has a better idea than I do..
I am too embarrassed to post the specs of my desktop.. so I'll leave it at that.. :unsure:
saphirekitty - October 8, 2007 12:57 PM (GMT)
I'm totally clueless when it comes to computer hardware -_-
Sephiroth - October 8, 2007 01:52 PM (GMT)
Me too...sorry man, but all i can say is that it's a nice dinossaur that goes by the name of Fujistu Siemens something that probabaly has a japonese word in it...
VirusZero - October 9, 2007 02:43 AM (GMT)
My laptop has:
15.4" widescreen with TFT tru-brite
Intel centrino core duo cpu at 1.6 ghz
Intel express 945GM 128mb shared gfx card/chip
100 gb harddrive
1 gb DDR2 ram
Super multi dvd burner drive (burns from cd-r to DVD+DL)
Wireless 802.11 a/b/g
4 usb 2.0 ports
1 firewire port
1 ethernet port
1 modem port
Windows XP (For now...)
Soul_Gatherer3000 - October 9, 2007 03:18 AM (GMT)
I'm so confused by VZ's post that I hate my comp even more now, I didn't even think that it was possible.
Black Angel - October 9, 2007 04:20 AM (GMT)
All I know is that my desktop has 384mb of SDRAM, 3 hdd's one 120gb, one 250gb, and one 40gb on a usb enclosure
Pentium III 450mhz processor, 2 cd drives.. 1 dual-layer dvd-rw and 1 cd-rw windows xp home
4 usb ports..
Mr. Nest knows more about both computers than I do.
technogeek - October 26, 2007 12:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Black Angel @ Oct 8 2007, 11:20 PM) |
All I know is that my desktop has 384mb of SDRAM, 3 hdd's one 120gb, one 250gb, and one 40gb on a usb enclosure
Pentium III 450mhz processor, 2 cd drives.. 1 dual-layer dvd-rw and 1 cd-rw windows xp home
4 usb ports..
Mr. Nest knows more about both computers than I do. |
ouch......
BA please don't take this the wrong way but you need an upgrade.
I am going to assume that what your comp has in it right now "does it for you" but those specs would kill me.
don't get me wrong
the dvd burner is a nice touch i'm looking for one of those myself.
May i reccomend an AMD Turion 64 bit dual core with a speed of your choosing
or if you have the money u can beef it up to an Intel Centrino dual core also with a speed of your choosing.
plaese note the intel is made to outperform the amd but the amd has the price advantage. the choice is yours
now i believe you said 328 mb of memory? not a bad start considering that xp requires you have 128 mb and most users have at least 256. may i suggest however beefing that up to at least a gig of mem for maximum performance.
LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST.
I have noticed in a diff. post that you are using 98, 200 pro, ME? i can't tell the difference.(i hope to god you're not using ME)
People I know Vista looks nice But please i'm begging you
STICK WITH WINDOWS XP
yes stay with windows xp for at least another year. wait untill vista has a few more service packs.
A friend of mine also told me that Project Vista is being terminated at the end of this year so microsoft can work out the bugs. thats all for now. if u have any comp trouble.............come see me.
my screename should tell u something other than "Look at me! Im a kid thats just interested in flash and nothing else!"
VirusZero - October 26, 2007 01:07 PM (GMT)
Actually I've used AMD processors before and I've found that atleast in 1 regard they are better than the intel counterparts...
AMD processors while they may be a bit slower than intel, they can juggle programs faster and handle multiple open applications more easily than intel's chips.
And it's funny but I've heard a lot of people calling Vista stuff like: ME 2 and massive flop, and stuff like that. So I'll put it to you, have you tried vista?
I have tried vista... and aside from some difficulties I had in using it (through no fault on vista itself) it seemed ok... (I still wouldn't "upgrade" to it though...)
But if you were looking to upgrade your pc's cpu wouldn't you want to go for the intel core 2 duo? or the AMD equivalent?
technogeek - October 26, 2007 03:36 PM (GMT)
Yes VZ i have tried windows vista i don't want to say i hated every minuete of it but as of right now there is barely anything compattible with vista plaus i already stated that vista is going to be terminated at the end of the year. the only good thing about vista.......to me...... is the voice command program. vista is a HUGE resource hog. And i quote from pc world magazine about vista first look. "Is vista worth the wait right now? NO Vista is a huge resource hog and not worth running yet." so as I said wait till a few more service packs come out. maby by then there will be alot more programs compatible with vista
I am in the middle of ordering a new laptop. my first actually
i am going for the intel due to intels better performance and battery life
I live in an amd familly but my father agrees with me about getting the intel.
but to tell the truth i couldn't care less about which processor as long as its 2.2 ghz
VirusZero - October 26, 2007 09:52 PM (GMT)
When ordering a laptop be wary of the graphics setup... If you have the money and are concerned with performance, get a laptop with a seperate graphics card... Shared chipsets are good for if you don't have the extra to spend... But they lack the power that a dedicated 128 or 256mb gfx card does... and it ties up your ram to use it.
technogeek - October 26, 2007 10:19 PM (GMT)
what exactly do u mean by seperate gfx card?
if i get a card thats not in the laptop
i doubt i can install it in the laptop
VirusZero - October 26, 2007 10:32 PM (GMT)
By seperate I mean make sure the laptop doesn't use shared graphics chips...
See how in my laptop's description there is "Intel express 945GM 128mb shared gfx card/chip" Well that means that my compter substitutes ram for video ram... Thus taking it away from the system when it needs more vram.
Getting a seperate graphics card means that the graphics card installed in the laptop has it's own dedicated ram for just graphics, it doesn't borrow from the main ram to supplement whats on the graphics card...
Black Angel - October 26, 2007 10:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (technogeek @ Oct 26 2007, 08:48 AM) |
| QUOTE (Black Angel @ Oct 8 2007, 11:20 PM) | All I know is that my desktop has 384mb of SDRAM, 3 hdd's one 120gb, one 250gb, and one 40gb on a usb enclosure
Pentium III 450mhz processor, 2 cd drives.. 1 dual-layer dvd-rw and 1 cd-rw windows xp home
4 usb ports..
Mr. Nest knows more about both computers than I do. |
ouch......
BA please don't take this the wrong way but you need an upgrade.
I am going to assume that what your comp has in it right now "does it for you" but those specs would kill me.
don't get me wrong
the dvd burner is a nice touch i'm looking for one of those myself.
May i reccomend an AMD Turion 64 bit dual core with a speed of your choosing
or if you have the money u can beef it up to an Intel Centrino dual core also with a speed of your choosing.
plaese note the intel is made to outperform the amd but the amd has the price advantage. the choice is yours
now i believe you said 328 mb of memory? not a bad start considering that xp requires you have 128 mb and most users have at least 256. may i suggest however beefing that up to at least a gig of mem for maximum performance.
LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST.
I have noticed in a diff. post that you are using 98, 200 pro, ME? i can't tell the difference.(i hope to god you're not using ME)
People I know Vista looks nice But please i'm begging you
STICK WITH WINDOWS XP
yes stay with windows xp for at least another year. wait untill vista has a few more service packs.
A friend of mine also told me that Project Vista is being terminated at the end of this year so microsoft can work out the bugs. thats all for now. if u have any comp trouble.............come see me.
my screename should tell u something other than "Look at me! Im a kid thats just interested in flash and nothing else!"
|
No offense taken. :) I know I need an upgrade, I've had this comp for 5 years.. When I got it, I was told that all it could handle was win98 SE..
The fact that I could install, and run xpsp2 with no problems was in and of itself a miracle..
Mr. Nest wants to get me a new comp for christmas..
I am not happy with my specs right now, as I can't do anything in c4d. It took Mr. Nest a week to render, and it messed up because of how slow my comp was.. but, at least I can still do stuff in cs2.. and I can still do things like browsing, or schoolwork on it..
I would certainly not use ME..
1. MS has stopped support for it so basically anyone using it would be vulnerable to security lapses that will never be fixed.
2. All it is is 98 with a facelift.
3. I fully intend to stick with XP, until MS pulls support for that too.. after which I'll probably switch to Knoppix.. that is, if it is as easy to install to a hard drive as windows.
4. I am at max capacity for my motherboard.. I have to get a new computer, because even if I did get a new motherboard, I would still have to get a new case, because the motherboard would not be compatible with the DELL case I am using now..
5. I have no interest in Vista outside of improvements on the gui, and how to do that same effect in my own graphics. I have heard a lot of things about vista, most of them bad, however, I am in no hurry to get it.
6. I said in other topic, that I was using a dual boot between winxp and win2k pro.. I have never had 98, or ME installed on my computer.. and as I recall, win95, 98, and ME were in the same boat so to speak, as they could not read ntfs file systems. They could only read and write FAT and FAT32 partitions, and they could not read files larger than 4gb.
NTFS file systems, on the other hand, could read a max of 2 or 3TB.. and were introduced Win NT4.. which is why you always see them paired together on software websites or packages.. i.e. Win95/98/ ME or WinNT/2K/XP. This would show that 2K is not the same as ME, or 98.
7. Your name could say what ever you want it to say, however I'd never be foolish enough to make a snap judgement about someone based on their username.
But hey, thanks for the tip.. I'll look into the processors, money isn't really an issue. :)
technogeek - October 26, 2007 10:55 PM (GMT)
well glad we're on the same page and glad we're all cool
so yea here is the problem with choosing the cpu when it comes to the turion and the centrino it like comparing apples to oranges(i think thats the right analogy) all i can say is do some heavy reasearch in it. glad to hear that money isn't an issue for ya
Vz the card im getting in my laptop is a 256 Nvidia geforce go 8600 Gt. it a nice card. its not the best but if it can play halo 2 then i'll be fine. Im getting 2 gb of ram in this laptop so the card has 256 dedicated memory and i think the rest is shared. but seeing that im getting 2 gig of ram i don't think that will be too much of a problem however if u know something i don't feel free to let me know.
the only thing that pisses me off about this laptop is i have to run vista. i can configure certain laptops for xp but my dad says that running xp with all of that advnced hardware could be a problem for xp. i don't know This topic is still open people. post ur specs and i'll give ya gab( translation tell me what ur specs are and i'll tell ya what i think)
VirusZero - October 27, 2007 12:09 AM (GMT)
Downgrading won't harm your computer or interfere with it in anyway... Nor will the hardware be too advanced for the software to understand it... The software will be able to apply default drives at the very least to run the system... The hardware is designed with this capability.
Nvidia is a good name brand, and 256 will be pretty good considering it is dedicated and won't use your main ram.
technogeek - October 30, 2007 03:36 PM (GMT)
okay default drivers i understand. the problem is default drivers are horrible. i guess i have to see if the go 8600 gt has a driver for xp
VirusZero - October 30, 2007 05:00 PM (GMT)
They weren't designed to be beautiful... they were designed to be functional and allow the software to utilize the hardware... even if at the most basic level until you can get driver upgrades to enable full functionality.
technogeek - November 1, 2007 06:05 PM (GMT)
okay i am ordering my laptop today and i hate to say it but im getting vista
a simple reason
the driver that i get for my video card for xp is only fo media center edition so unfortunatley i can't do amazing things with my card if im using xp pro.
*a day later* okay my laptop is ordered and on its way andd i just want to say that at the last minuete. i changed my mind and got xp.
BlackDevilX - November 10, 2007 10:22 PM (GMT)
I have the OLDEST computer in history. 7 years old,
AMD processor 1.30 GHZ
512 mb ram
80 gb harddrive
Nvidia GeSUCK 4000 gfx card
DVD REader/Burner
CD Burner
Zip Drive
Computer so old the fan doesnt work. Have to take off the side and put a fan in to keep it from overheating
technogeek - November 10, 2007 10:37 PM (GMT)
yea it sounds like u could use some new hardware
by the way everyone my laptop arrived and i changed my mind about the os
i am running windows xp and there is a way to make halo 2 work on it
how? no clue yet i have to talk with my cousin
thats all fer now but be sure to visit my hardcore halo for pc fans topic
Black Angel - November 10, 2007 10:40 PM (GMT)
Techno, you might like this.
http://h-c.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=3743That is vz's review.
technogeek - November 14, 2007 01:52 PM (GMT)
yea its an interesting review i never really thought about using linux in my life. i guess thats what u get when u grow up using windows 3.1 then using 95. then using 98. skipping 2000 due to driver issues. using me then using xp. then vista only to hate it and switch back to xp.. don;t even get me started with microsoft office versions HAHA ;D
OKAY LOOK does anybody here play halo on the pc. and yes i do mean halo 1
look i know this is the wrong topic but please look at my hardcore halo for pc fans topic. the KÄ clan just got over almost dying and i want to make sure that doesn't happen again. so if u got the balls (oh sry laddies. yea if tere is any laddies out there that play halo then continue reading on) then join the KÄ clan.
but u'll have to see me first before i can give u the link for the clans website
Black Angel - November 14, 2007 05:46 PM (GMT)
you started out using 3.1 also?
I thought bdx and I were the only ones..
Do you remember
this, this, and
these? :)
BlackDevilX - November 14, 2007 10:11 PM (GMT)
My AWESOME Computer!!
Dont laugh it puts out all these FFSXs and stuff and music so blah
Black Angel - November 14, 2007 10:16 PM (GMT)
I see that you got an upgrade.
You no longer need the hamster in his wheel to keep your system running..
technogeek - November 15, 2007 02:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Black Angel @ Nov 14 2007, 05:16 PM) |
I see that you got an upgrade.
You no longer need the hamster in his wheel to keep your system running.. |
ROFL
LMAO
LOOOOOOLLLL
omg i got to writhe that one down ba that was frekin hilarious.
anyway. yea bdx i assume that will do it for u. but it will just "do it for u"
so maby u should "do something for it" before u don't have anything to run. when a cpu fan, power fan, or any fan in the comp blows, don't try and improvise, GET IT FIXED! im pretty sure that only the cpu fan is designed to keep the cpu cool and nothing else. so bdx take the advice that i gave to ur sister and get urself something nice. BUT if u have 6 grand!! (i hope u do) than get one of these.

BOOM BABY! HP BLACKBIRD THE ULTIMATE GAMING PC!
completley fan and water cooled
BUT THIS IS THE BEST PART
if u open the door to the pc u can see all the hardwar inside. now ur probably thinking yea yea its very nice we have to pull crap out and put crap in.
well its got a huge space for hard drives THAT MAY I ADD ARE ALL HOT-SWAPPABLE
SLI video cards(which im not going to waste my time trying to explain what they are.)
its got forward usb 2.0 mic headphones and im pretty sure its got forward IEEE 1394 (firewire) and a 8 in 1(i think) card reader on the top
but don't take my word for it look for urself


needles to say its a pretty sweet pc. too bad i don't even have a grand (hinting that maby i'll do things for the community that are worth being paid for.(HAHA JUST KIDDING))
yes i did grow up using 3.1 i was born in the year 1990 which means that when i was five i used? EXACTLY Windows 95. i don't remember everything about windows 3.1 except the fact that after watching dad use it many times i knew where everything was. I don't remember Klotski or jezzball but i do play jezzball on my cell phone. look in the useful sites post i'll give ya a link to free cell stuff later. thats all fer now cause the bell just rang and i got to get to my next class.
cya
BlackDevilX - November 15, 2007 02:22 PM (GMT)
Yeah, Im hoping to save up for a computer once mah bills are payed off
Black Angel - November 15, 2007 09:23 PM (GMT)
See, I've always been confused by the term "gaming pc" Can you only use it for gaming? Or can you use it as you would a regular pc?
I wouldn't mind having a computer with the specs and performance of a gaming pc, but for regular pc use..
That really is a nice system, I love this case..
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81803you can get either the case, or an entire system.
I also like the ones that have like a window on the side of the tower, and the inside is lit up.. I really can't describe it, but there is a lot of pics of them in the PC mags Mr. Nest has lying around here..
technogeek - November 16, 2007 02:06 PM (GMT)
okay gaming pc means its mainly used for gaming
yes u can use it for other things but most pc's are gaming pc's because they have advanced hardware in them
if ur going to just word process u don't need a 2.2 ghz processor with 2 gig of ram
so yea u can do everything on a gaming pc from word processing to video editing to tv communications to gaming
VirusZero - November 16, 2007 08:31 PM (GMT)
Actually if you intend to do any hardware intensive graphical design, then a gaming pc is what you'd want. (Because they're designed to provide maximum performance.)
A good example would be any of the professional level graphical tools. (Final cut or even adobe's video editing software are prime examples. To use their more advanced features you need an extremely powerful system.)
But even if you not making movies, just creating still images, because the more complex they get the more power the computer will require to render them.
(Just for an example, did you know it takes about 6 hours to render a frame in a pixar movie? 6 hours for 1/24th of a second...)
Now, I'm not particularly familiar with the SLI technology, but why do you say it would be a waste of time explaining it? Do you think I wouldn't be able to understand what it is?
technogeek - November 19, 2007 01:44 PM (GMT)
it it is a little bit confusing(not to me) but let me break it down for ya
An sli is a card made by nvidia only. Sli's come with different tyes of memory and diff model #'s like sli 5000 and sli 6000 now what the sli does is it allows the cards to communicate with eachother. note that it only communicates with sli to sli.
now when i say communicate i mean the cards work together. so lets say u have a sli 6000 (pullin #'s out of thin air) nice card looks freakin great right? well while it provides nice graphics it could be a little better. so u insert an nvidia sli 5000(again pullin #'s out of thin air). the 6000 and the 5000 have a chat(if u will) with each other and work together and provide better graphics. so while u may have an sli thats 6000 and an sli thats 5000 WHAT U REALLY HAVE IS........ an nvidia sli 11,000 did u get that? ;D
BlackDevilX - November 19, 2007 02:27 PM (GMT)
Wasnt confusing at all really. Thats basically how RAM works.
technogeek - November 19, 2007 03:11 PM (GMT)
hmm u know what? thats a good point bdx from now on i'll just tell everyone that it works just like ram. that will make it easier
VirusZero - November 19, 2007 05:16 PM (GMT)
That's all graphics cards are anyway... Dedicated ram for the purpose of producing graphics.
And I find that in general, hardware descriptions aren't nearly as complicated as software ones... (Because the hardware is what it is, the software is where it gets tricky... Because now you have to make the hardware work.)
technogeek - November 19, 2007 05:27 PM (GMT)