'I hate them, I have a plan'
13/06/2007 07:49 - (SA)


Montreal - A 13-year-old girl is on trial in Canada for murder, charged with killing her parents and brother last year for opposing her relationship with a man almost twice her age.

The girl and her then 23-year-old boyfriend were arrested after her mother, father and brother were found dead on April 23 2006, with multiple stab wounds in their Alberta province home. The boy also appeared to have been strangled.

During the trial, which started this week, prosecutor Stephanie Cleary read to the jury an e-mail written by the girl, 12 at the time, to her boyfriend a month before the killings, local media said Tuesday.

"I hate them so I have this plan. It begins with me killing them and it ends with me living with you," the e-mail said.

The prosecution also plans to show the jury a drawing found in the girl's school locker, apparently depicting the murder and her escape in her boyfriend's truck.

The girl, whose name has not been made public because she is a minor, and her boyfriend, Jeremy Steinke, were arrested in neighbouring Saskatchewan province a day after the murders.

Police found blood-stained clothes, knives and one of the mother's identity cards in their car.

The girl's trial is expected to last several weeks. Steinke, who has also been charged with premeditated murder, will go on trial afterwards.

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Girl apologises to dead parents
11/07/2007 22:48 - (SA)

'I hate them, I have a plan'

Alberta - Canada's youngest multiple killer begged for forgiveness in an apology she wrote just two days after her parents and brother's bloodied bodies were found in their home in Alberta.

However, jurors in the 13-year-old girl's murder trial never got to see the newly released letter because the judge ruled that police used heavy-handed tactics to get her to confess and to pen the apology in late April 2006.

The girl, who cannot be named under a Canadian law that protects the identity of minors, was convicted late on Monday of three counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of her mother, father and eight-year-old brother. She is the youngest convicted multiple killer in Canada.

The court released her apology letter on Tuesday.

Angry with her parents

"To my parents, I hope you know that through all that has happened I loved you the whole while," the girl, then 12, wrote.

"I wish I could take everything back. I wish it hadn't happened, I wish you were with me right now. Because now I have no one."

The teen, who is scheduled to be sentenced next month, was angry with her parents who had grounded her and restricted her from using the computer after they discovered her relationship with a man more than 10 years her senior.

The boyfriend, Jeremy Steinke, also is charged with murder, but his trial date has not been set.

The girl wrote the letter in a police interrogation room shortly after police arrested her and Steinke, who was 23 at the time.

Apologises to her little brother

Justice Scott Brooker tossed both the letter and a partial confession in which the girl admitted they killed her little brother because he was too sensitive to survive without parents. The judge condemned the police for denying the girl's repeated requests for a lawyer.

Medicine Hat police Chief Norm Boucher defended his investigators, saying they were simply trying to get as much information as possible out of the girl.

In the letter to her family, the girl also apologises to her little brother. She admitted at trial that she tried to make her brother go to sleep by choking him while her parents were being killed.

She also confessed in court to stabbing him once, but said Steinke was one the one who slit his throat.

Maximum penalty of 10 years

"To my little brother I apologise for letting you hear what had happened, also for causing you any pain and for frightening you so much."

In her letter, the girl also asked her parents to forgive Steinke, saying killed out of love for her and because he was "under the influence of mind altering substance."

"He is most possibly the kindest person I've ever met his wish being only for my happiness."

The girl is to be sentenced on August 23 and faces a maximum penalty of 10 years, with six of those behind bars. Steinke is expected to enter a plea next week and have his trial date set.

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It's official. THE WORLD HAS GONE COMPLETElY INSANE!

I hope they both get the death penalty.

She didn't have any pity when she killed them, and I don't pity her, and won't pity her if they give her the chair.

That is seriously fucked up.. she will be free in 10 years.. and will be having the time of her life.. if an adult the same age as her boyfriend killed their family, do you think that they would have gotten 10 years?

No. They would have gotten a life sentence, or the death penalty.. A punishment equally deserving of the crime commited.

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Sory I was trying to think of what to say, its not every day we have a multiple killer, and not even every centuary he/she is 12.

In response to what Black Angel said I somehwat dissagree, but for a different reason. I DO pity them.

I don't, however, pity that the girl will grow up knowing what she did, I don't pity the mental damange she has, and will ALWAYS have, however I do pity the poor mother, father, and eight year old. Whom wished nothing but their family members' safty and wellfare.

I don't pity whomever has the...pleasure of meeting this horible man, Steinke, who was twisted enough to eaither of made up this plan or to go with it in the first place.

But what I DO pity is that neither of these two people will know the feelings of sadness that they should feel, will die knowing, but not careing about their transgressions, will rot with the heavy weights that they don't even know they carry.

Finally I pity her family members who, in vain, wait in heaven hopeing to see their baby girl. "She coulden't of done this in her right mind!" they think. In the end an entire worldly plain will devide them, and what I pity is that those two won't even know why...

Unfortunately (for this case) in Canada we don't have the death penalty... Hell even our life imprisonments are only 25 years... and with good behaviour you can be out in 8-10 years... (Unless your denied parole. In which case you get 25 years... and all sentences are concurrant. So if you kill 3 people and get life for each of them, you serve 25 years total, cause you serve the time all at the same time.)

The girl has already shown she doesn't care about her family, she came up with the plan to murder them. The only reason she wrote the apology letter is under the urging of her defence lawyer. And only then it was to make her seem more the victim of Steinke than the mastermind behind the killings.

Thus I have no pity for her, she may only be 13 now (12 at the time of the murders) but she sure as heck knew what she was doing and what it meant. And then it didn't even phase her a bit, she continued... And in the paper I get here it said she calmly told the jury how she slit her brother's throat and how she listened to the noise her brother made as he choked on his own blood trying to draw breath.

It pisses me off, I think she should be tried as an adult, in Texas or somewhere that has Capital punishment, or worse, give her to a convicted pedophile serving a life sentence behind bars (one that won't reform and thus cannot be released). Let her be a plaything to a slightly sicker being, like her family was to her. Then let her know true terror when in the middle of the night the executioner comes without warning plucks her from her cold damp prison cell and takers her for the final walk down death row, to a sick way fo dying... Maybe have the executioner slit her throat so she can feel what her brother felt as she did it to him... Or something equally as nasty, not the quick and clean leathal injection she might normally get.

I personally don't condome the death penility for any reason. Not beceause I belive in forgiveness, just the opposite.

For horrible murders there are so many more things that are worse then death. Those are the punishments that these crimanals deserve. Life, no parole. And I don't mean the usual life sentence, where it caps off at a certain number of years, I mean LIFE.

Typically, I don't either, and I have even said as such in this thread.. but I also believe that the punishment given should be equally deserving of the crime committed.. and sometimes, that may entail the death penalty.. especially when a life sentence would only come at the expense of the taxpayers.

Yeah I aslo comminted that in that (<= Link) thred. I also JUST had a discussion about it with my family. I told them about the 12 year old who murdered, and got to see multiple sides of the isshue.

out of curiousity, what other sides are there?

She hated her parent's for actually caring about her well-being, and decided to take their lives for it. SHE was the one who hatched the bloody plot.. not her boyfriend.

Though her boyfriend should be tossed to the lions for messing around with a 12 year old in the first place..

This issue kinda hits home for me.. I have a 12 year old sister, and a 7 year old brother, and if she ever came home with a 23 year old boyfriend, or even an 18 year old boyfriend, I'd kick her ass and let my brother and stepfather handle him.

Though, thankfully my sister is a sweet girl who wouldn't do anything like that.. I guess it all depends on how she was raised as well..

Putting yourself in the committers shoes is the best way to view angles and to see possible motives. I however find it hard to level with the prepetrator in this situation.

Personally, I think if you came to make her face the very thing she had them face, it'd be just as inhumane as her murdering them. It wouldn't be right in any sense. While I don't really care for the death penalty, I don't think it is meant to be used as a brutal execution in any meaning anyways.

I don't believe she should have just gotten 25 years however. That's messed up. If that's Canada's life sentence, what if someone decided to just go out and kill 10 people, or 20? They'd just get 25 years, right? That's just messed up there. She and her boy friend should be behind bars until death, that would be condemning her truly. Because she took away the life of three others, they could make her live the time she took away, alone in a cell.

Now what really gets me, is how she killed her brother... That's extremely sick, and disgusting... I don't know how she could do that, and nor do I want to know... It's really disgusting...

i am sorry, but I have been in the situation where my parents didn't approve of the guy that I was dating, and you know what? I hated their opinion.. I did not hate them.. and I sure as hell didn't think about killing my parents.. perhaps I was like every other teen who had the desire to rebel against them, but that was it..

I may understand her frustration, and anger with her parent's when they did not approve of her boyfriend, and I may empathize with her on that alone.. but I will never understand, or attempt to empathize, or have sympathy over her actions.

I have always had issues with my parent's.. whether it was my mother, my stepfather, or my biological father, I have even been pissed off with them to the extent that I did not want to talk to them, or have anything to do with them for a period of time.

But, I have never thought about, fantasized about, or even talked about killing them.. I have a sister her age, and she is very well educated on the concept of right and wrong.. so in my opinion, those words and actions were not the words and actions of a little girl.. but a psychopath.

This just pisses me off.

I have nothing to say. :angry:

As I said, she knew what she was doing when she made the plan. Thus no reason to say she is the victim, coerced by an older man into doing it... But if he was bright, he wouldn't have been messing around with a 12 yr old, and he definitely wouldn't of allowed/helped her to kill her family. Thus he is almost as bad as her. (I'd give him 2 counts 1st degree murder and 1 count accessory to murder. thus he'd get about 60 years, non concurrant no parole.)

As far as the parents go, I support their decision for not liking the boyfriend... 23 year old going out with a 12 year old? that's a pedophile...

As far as punishment, she showed no remorse in her actions, thus she should have no remorse/mercy showed to her. Death might be an easy way out for her so she doesn't have to face the consequences, but a 10 year prison sentence (because she is a juvenile) is just a slap on the wrist. She'll learn nothing and be back out in a few years.

http://h-c.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=3...post&p=10027239

I duno.. Trying teens as adults...

I think that only if it is a really hanus crime should a teen be tryed as an adult.

This instance if one of those exceptions.