Title: Should Prostitution be legal?
Black Angel - September 3, 2007 04:11 AM (GMT)
Should Prostitution be legal? Why or Why not?
Dictator - September 5, 2007 10:18 AM (GMT)
I think it should as long there are guidelines around it... I just think so because it's not like you can really stop all the prostitution, so why not guide it. It'll make it somewhat safer. sry.. short answer atm.
saphirekitty - September 5, 2007 10:33 AM (GMT)
I really dont understand why its illegal in the first place but w/e :...:
The only reason it should be legal in my eyes is because some people dont have any other choices to get money. Same with strippers execept:
1. It's not illegal (probably cause of number 2)
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2. It doesnt involve intercorse
Dictator - September 5, 2007 10:54 AM (GMT)
Besides, prostitution is consential. There are probably rape incidents but for the most part it's consential. They could do what Las Vegas does in other areas, have test for STDs each year and if you have them then you can't do it anymore or stuff like that. It's not really as bad as it's made out to be.
Black Angel - September 5, 2007 04:39 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (saphirekitty @ Sep 5 2007, 06:33 AM) |
| I really dont understand why its illegal in the first place but w/e |
I heard that it is illegal because the money isn't taxed.
Even though I don't agree with it, and is NOT something that I would ever do, I think it should be legalized, simply because it is their body, and is their choice.
There are a lot of people who place a high importance on attraction. Some women won't look twice at a guy unless they have a lot of money, or are the same size as Ron Jeremy, just like some men won't look twice at a woman unless they looked like they were clipped from a Playboy.. and conversely, there are some that prefer the opposite but they are in the minority.
The majority of ads out there have fit, and attractive people.. if the majority of American's are overweight, then why aren't there more overweight people in porn? The same applies for tv, movies, magazines, and books as well. If a person didn't know any better, they'd think that sex was only for attractive people.
There are also those who are deemed as unattractive by the rest of society, for whatever reason, but are constantly over looked, and sadly enough these people also use the services of a prostitute thinking that they will never get any companionship, or will ever be in a relationship, unless they pay for it.
Yes it is dangerous, they get raped, killed, robbed, and beaten. The people that did these things to them are still at large, because they know that the prostitute they did that to will never tell them simply because they themselves would be thrown in jail. This is also the reason they don't go to the hospital, and get medical treatment, and as a result, what ever they have now, eventually gets worse, and it gets spread to others.
However dangerous, disgusting, or degrading prostitution is, to the woman and to the "John," it is still their choice, and we have no right to push our beliefs and opinions onto another person.
Making it illegal will only increase the number of those doing it illegally. Prostitution is illegal here, and yet, there are escort services, WITH newspaper ads, and prostitutes still walk the streets. So it being illegal isn't doing much for the business, except increasing the amount of those doing it, and the number of those with an STD from having sex with a prostitute.
sambambam - September 5, 2007 09:18 PM (GMT)
very true sis. in germany they have to be test monthly for std and if caught operating with out a lic it big fines and jail time.
Zinarei - September 6, 2007 07:54 PM (GMT)
Black Angel said it best. I agree with you completely. As a matter of fact I can't say much else, that statement was flawless to what I though. I think that these women can do it if they want. It is true that many rape victims are, indeed, prostitutes, but quite frankly you run the risk. I feel bad for them, yes, but it takes a very intelligent person to realize how they can make a living without relying on prostitution even if you WERE poor. This all leads to the hard cold fact that prostitutes whom are doing it for their children and for their living conditions and ect are, indeed, not very good thinkers. It takes a smart person to realize how much they can do. There is ALWAYS a way in this country (The US, I'm not speaking for anywhere else) to rise up from the slums and defeat all odds. Look at me. I was in one of the slummiest parts in New Jersey, but then i worked and worked and I got a huge house and became a teacher. It's nice to feel good, yes? Prostitutes bring it on themselves, however, if a woman does it just because she wants to then by all means. The people who are no where near as good looking and smart as me need them. (That was not ment to make me sound like I love myself. Just think about what I mean by saying that.)
In the whole I think that it's fine. HOWEVER, argue this;
*Goes off to make a new topic*
BlackDevilX - September 6, 2007 08:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Zinarei @ Sep 6 2007, 03:54 PM) |
| but it takes a very intelligent person to realize how they can make a living without relying on prostitution even if you WERE poor. |
Nada, believe it or not, some of those "very intelligent" people can be prostitutes. Not because they want to, but because if the situation is that dire that they need to make money in a short amount of time, then what else is there.
Let me ask you this hypothetical question, if you had to make $1000 to save the life of your child who has some disease and need immediate treatment, however you have NO MONEY and no one is financially able to help you, then what?
Also, not everybody can do what you did Zinarei and come out as successful as you are, you see just because you have come from the "slummiest" parts of anywhere doesn't put everybody in the same boat as you are. People have different talents and disabilities, and although may come from the same slums as you have, it doesn't mean that they are in the same situation
Black Angel - September 6, 2007 08:38 PM (GMT)
That is an excellent point bro, in all actuallity, it comes down to the simple fact that we won't know what we'd do unless we were thrust in to that situation.
I have seen some very smart people living rather questionable lifestyles, not always because they have to, or their situations are dire, but because they want to.
While, there are some who feel backed into a corner, just like my brother pointed out, and have no where they can turn for help. And instead do what they have to do.
Point A. In
this post would be such an example.
Zinarei - September 6, 2007 08:40 PM (GMT)
Realistically no amount of money gained from prostitution would be enough to save the kid. It's the cold truth. I wouldn't resort to selling my body. I'd do my best to get money other ways, be it through family, loans, or any other way. There ARE ways out there, you know. Be you poor or rich there are ways. And no amount of money from having sex with a few people can pay for an operation or something to save your child's life, I'm sorry. You can get food other ways, easier ways, aswell.
Black Angel - September 6, 2007 08:49 PM (GMT)
Coming from someone who has been in this predicament, (I was homeless once for a very brief time) I can say what I would and wouldn't do for money.. Even as I sit here, I can say that I was one of the lucky ones, because there are people out there who will help you even when you don't ask for it, and so that, in addition to self-respect, and stubborness and determination was the reason I didn't resort to selling my body, or panhandling.
Living in a city as densely populated city as New York City, there are a lot of cans and bottles that could be turned in for money, and lot of money had been dropped by those who were careless.. and it was that that made it even easier.. but I am sure that if I lived out in the middle of no where, and were homeless, then I would not have had as many options.
However, there are some who aren't as fortunate, and have to do what they have to in order to survive.
BlackDevilX - September 6, 2007 08:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Zinarei) |
| Realistically no amount of money gained from prostitution would be enough to save the kid. It's the cold truth. I wouldn't resort to selling my body. I'd do my best to get money other ways, be it through family, loans, or any other way. There ARE ways out there, you know. Be you poor or rich there are ways. And no amount of money from having sex with a few people can pay for an operation or something to save your child's life, I'm sorry. You can get food other ways, easier ways, aswell. |
So your basically saying, that you wouldn't try to save the child's life because of the belief that you could not make enough money prostituting? You wouldn't resort to selling your body, however you would try to make money other ways. But let me ask you this, do you believe in that short amount of time you could make enough money to save the child's life? Honestly if your willing to go this extent to save the life of another, it shows honor and integrity. No offense, but you are not exercising every possible option to make the money, and because you did not want to resort in selling your body, you may have just killed a child. Would you want to live with the fact that you KNOW you did not do everything you could to save the life, or rather exercise every possible option and FEEL that you didn't do enough?
Zinarei - September 6, 2007 08:56 PM (GMT)
I see BlackDevilX typing so if I totally disregard your post, I'm sorry. I'll edit it when I can.
I see what you're saying, Black Angel but at the same time, there are still ways. Now then, I'm talking about current day modernized countries. I'm sure in other places it may not be possible. But I, for one, think there is always a way. If you stay well composed and gather, you can do it. Now, I would assume you know more, having actually been homeless, but nontheless one has to think that though there are the less fortunate there are still certain ways. Stealing isn't /good/ but it is, INDEED, necessary at times. I'm not innocent when it comes to stealing. I've stolen over 200 dollars over the course of my high school year just in lunch money (I only did it to those who were "bad" though it still doesn't justify it.)
Eh, I just think that in modern day, especially in America, it'll be possible to be able to do SOMETHING about your circumstances.
Edit:
Okay, I see where you're coming from, I really do. However, I still stand with the believe that prostitution isn't the only option and there is another way to get you saved. If it's the easiest way, I'm not going to say "So be it" I'm going to do something about it. I'll save the kid even if I give it to a hospital. You know a hospital will accept it. I'd first find out information about said hospital and then years later once I was stable, though the kid might hate me, I'll present myself to them as their proper parent.
Black Angel - September 6, 2007 09:12 PM (GMT)
To be quite honest, I think that the higher ups are too concerned with their own pockets to even think about the "little people" money is spent for the most inane reasons. Millionaires compete with other millionaires to see who can throw away the most money on a painting. But, I digress.
However, you cannot do anything without knowledge.. and an example of this would be the censorship that is going on in China, and in North Korea. The leaders in these countries do this because of the fact that knowledge is power, and without it, you are powerless to your surroundings.
I was able to survive because I had knowledge of ways that I could make money. BDX and I used to collect cans and bottles so that we'd have money, this way we'd have our own money when we were outside and so our mother doesn't know that we blew our allowance on stupid stuff.
Our mother allowed us to collect the cans from soda in the house, and our uncles beer, so that we'd know the value of a dollar, and the importance of not wasting money. We didn't have a lot of money growing up, but our mother did what ever she could to make sure that we were happy and taken care of. She did not have to resort to prostitution to do so, because she had the knowledge, and the education to know that there are other alternatives.
I survived by applying the knowledge I got from my mother's teaching.. but I know that there are those who aren't as fortunate. And I am certainly not going to assume that they are.
So if you don't know of other alternatives, then you will only do what you know.
Raven Holliday - September 7, 2007 01:09 AM (GMT)
First of all, prostitution like drug dealing is a cop-out. The reason people turn to these tactics is for 2 reasons and they are: 1. It is Instant Money 2. Requires no skills. Why is it that people of all nations come to this country and can get jobs without resorting to these methods? It is because they are not to good to take the below minimum wage jobs we don't want, or think that it is beneath us? It is easy for people to say it is because of my circumstances, my upbringing, my situation yada....yada! It is because we look to blame others for our failures, when we need to look to ourselves. no one said life was going to be easy! why do you think childbirth is called labor?? It is not easy. Anyone in these lines of work needs a swift kick-we are all given the same chances to make something out of our lives! Rest assured when you make it big by your own merit, you have something to look back on with pride, that despite the adverse situations, the situations, the crap you had to endure, you persevered!
Black Angel - September 7, 2007 01:12 AM (GMT)
BlackDevilX - September 7, 2007 02:52 AM (GMT)
Black Angel - September 7, 2007 03:07 AM (GMT)