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BlackDevilX - July 4, 2008 03:28 AM (GMT)
Judge orders Google to give YouTube user data to Viacom

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SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) — Google expressed disappointment and privacy groups voiced outrage Thursday after a judge ordered Google to give entertainment giant Viacom details of video-watching habits of visitors to its popular video-sharing website YouTube.

On Tuesday US District Court Judge Louis Stanton backed Viacom's request for data on which YouTube users watch which videos on the website.

Viacom is seeking the data as potential evidence for a billion-dollar copyright suit against Google, which Viacom charges acts as a willing accomplice to Internet users that put clips of Viacom's copyrighted television programs on YouTube.

"We are disappointed the court granted Viacom's overreaching demand for viewing history," Google senior litigation counsel Catherine Lacavera told AFP in an email Thursday.

But in what Google claims as a partial victory, Stanton denied Viacom's request to get its hands on secret source code used in YouTube video searches as well as for Internet searches.

Stanton also refused a Viacom request to order Google to provide access to the videos YouTube users store in private YouTube files.

Google lawyers opposed each of the Viacom requests, which were made during a "discovery" evidence-gathering phase of a lawsuit filed in March of last year in US District Court in New York state.

"We are pleased the court put some limits on discovery, including refusing to allow Viacom to access users' private videos and our search technology," Lacavera said.

"We will ask Viacom to respect users' privacy and allow us to anonymize the logs before producing them under the court's order."

Google condemns the lawsuit as an attack on the underpinnings of the Internet, while Viacom argues that the California-based Internet search colossus and especially its subsidiary YouTube are involved in "massive" copyright infringement.

The Viacom lawsuit has been merged with similar civil litigation being pursued by the Premier League of England's Football Association, which says soccer game clips are routinely posted on YouTube without authorization.

Google shields itself with 1998's Digital Millennium Copyright Act, US legislation that says Internet firms are not responsible for what Internet users put on websites.

Stanton brushed aside privacy concerns on Tuesday while ordering Google to give Viacom log-in names of YouTube users and Internet protocol (IP) addresses identifying which computers they used for viewing videos.

Stanton contends that Viacom needs more than pseudonyms and IP numbers that are tantamount to addresses on the Internet to identify individual YouTube users.

Electronic Frontier Foundation attorney Kurt Opsahl called the court's ruling a significant reversal to privacy rights.

The judge's ruling ignores US federal law as well as a "fiasco" that resulted after America Online gave researchers what it thought was anonymous search data, Opsahl said.

People's online searches can unintentionally divulge identities even without accompanying onscreen nicknames or IP addresses, according to Opsahl.

"The court's erroneous ruling is a set-back to privacy rights and will allow Viacom to see what you are watching on YouTube," Opsahl said.

"We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request and Google to take all steps necessary to challenge this order and protect the rights of its users."

Viacom issued a statement Thursday saying it is only out to bolster its case against Google and not to expose or pursue viewers of copyrighted videos.

"Any information that we or our outside advisors obtain will be used exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against YouTube and Google," Viacom said.

"It will be handled subject to a court protective order and in a highly confidential manner."

Industry insiders suspect Viacom is using the lawsuit as a negotiating tactic and has no intention of taking the matter to trial.

Viacom's goal could be to reach into Google's deep pockets for royalties for videos played on YouTube.

Viacom, however, said it had no choice but to sue after "a great deal of unproductive negotiation" failed to curtail YouTube's "unlawful business model."

The Viacom stable includes Nickelodeon, Comedy Central and more than 130 other television networks around the world, plus an array of websites.

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Blaze the Hedgehog - July 4, 2008 03:41 AM (GMT)
f'dup O.o
Dude. I hate corporate idiots. -_-

A.J. The Echidna - July 4, 2008 06:02 PM (GMT)
Meh, it's just another threat agaonst people on the intarwebz. If anything the Viacommies will just end up doing nothing an everybody will go back to their business.

Black Angel - July 4, 2008 07:25 PM (GMT)
I am not in the least bit surprised by this.. especially considering the fact that the gov't now has the right to spy on users' habits online.

But hey, at least we have the right to own a gun right? So not all of our constitutional rights are being done away with. :ermm:

ClockHass - July 4, 2008 07:48 PM (GMT)
Vote Obama 08 and they will. =O

BlackDevilX - July 4, 2008 10:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ClockHass @ Jul 4 2008, 03:48 PM)
Vote Obama 08 and they will. =O

Oh lawd your a mccain supporter arent you

A.J. The Echidna - July 4, 2008 10:22 PM (GMT)
I'd expect that to be the case with McCain.

ClockHass - July 4, 2008 11:48 PM (GMT)
I'm not going to go into anymore politics then with what comment I made annnnddd... Obama as a child only had one bedtime story. The Communist Manifesto. Other then that..

I think what Viacom is stupid. Google is not at fault. The users put the videos up and youtube does its best to remove ones that don't belong. =/ Viacom is just stupid. I doubt they really have a viable reason for instigating such a lawsuit, seeing as nothing on youtube could possibly damage profit of their industry or cause any other means of harm. Warner Bros. has videos removed all the time, Viacom could have videos they don't want up removed as well, but they don't have to invade user privacy.

BlackDevilX - July 5, 2008 02:59 AM (GMT)
At least Obama doesn't double talk every speech he makes. Says one thing and then says ANOTHER, then says he didn't say it when its been video documented that he has.

Change.

but thats another topic.

Dark Mage - July 10, 2008 05:05 AM (GMT)
Oh this is a laugh and a half, seriously, it ain't Google's fault that videos get put up on Youtube that Viacom sees as "Copyright Infringement", Viacom should just say to Google "We want stuff that's ours taken off your website." and not go "Oh, you got our stuff, we sue you! lol" and all that b/s.

But I don't know, I'm Aussie and the law's probably different in America for that.




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