Wow... F***kin A ¬_¬. This place is pretty old im guessing ¬_¬

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Yep.. we're nearly half a decade old..

...ur...kidding... right? my suggestion is keep this place alive as long as possible, to do so.. u may need to keep ppl moving/make a new site. well... just a suggestion

Nope, no joke. We opened on 10/10/04. This forum, just like any other has its periods of highs and lows. It may be slow now, but this place has seen a lot worse.

It'll pick up.. however, the staff here can only do so much, it is up to the members as well. Mostly everyone that is here whom have been with us for a long time have grown up so to speak, and with that, their priorities have changed.

I remember when this place was either Sonic, Final Fantasy, or BDX's SSA Series. (You can see this progression in this topic) He was 16-year old kid when he started this forum, and now he is a 21-year old grown man with responsibilities.

This forum has certainly grown significantly and quite impressively, I still remember joining in 2006.

This was the first I was ever accepted for who I was besides in my house, so this place is important to me.

I could revive this forum, but I need for yall to trust me like for starters, taking of this probation title

Touching story no joke. I understand and see you all have quite a history with this place. And has kept a lot of people going. i guess i could try and help out. even though im not quite the forum fan. but still a lil Chat box(Xat.com) wouldn't hurt. It'll give ppl a better chance to talk. trust me it works. i had that on my site, and i found alot of ppl used to just come around to talk about stuff.

I also understand the BDX has a HUGE inspiration on alot of people and animators out there alike... including me. To tell you the truth. My fan character Kixx and the animation wouldnt be around if it wasnt for his animations. And thats mainly why i respect him so much.

@coolman Lolz your on probation? And i second that. i wouldn't mind helping out.

Trust is something you have to earn. And after the stunts you pulled... You're lucky you're even back. If you want that title off, whining to have it removed is the quickest way to extend it's stay there. Work with what you got, prove that you're not the same juvenile kid you were before... Only then will it be removed. Understand?


As far as having a chatbox goes... We had one on the forum, but that failed entirely. People spent too much time there and ignoring the forum entirely. Plus the amount of idiots spamming it, and overall time needing to police it was by far too much. Plus it generated a bit of lag on the forum for anyone with less than superb internet. Overall it was more trouble than it was worth. Forget the cbox idea.

That's why you use Xat.com. no lag, as for spammers you can Ban, Kick, Mod, de-mod, own, de-own who ever when ever you want. As long as your the owner or main owner it really doesnt matter you pretty much own. I can explain how you can fix the policing problem, i typed it before, then my finger slipped and something happened, then my text was deleted... and it was really long, and i dont wanna type it again, but to make it shorter. "When i have full router usage again, i can help out with that".

It was only a short bit at the end of my post, maybe you missed it...

You might be enthusiastic about it, but we're not looking for another one. So leave the issue be.

On the off-chance that you are asking to be promoted in a round about way, because coolman did mention that "we'd have to trust him" and there'd be no need to say that if a promotion wasn't what you were implying... to that, I say, that in all honesty, we don't need anymore staff, and like VZ has said, we had a chatbox here and that only lead to further decline of the forum. In fact, the members who were most active in the chatbox, followed it to bdx's website when it was causing many problems here.

The staff we have now, are some of our oldest members. In fact, VZ, was promoted to admin back when I was doing all I could to revive this place and AJ was promoted to gmod.. both were extremely helpful and supportive and they worked with me when we were trying to get back up and running.

That is the way we pick our staff here. We have to have a feeling about someone, and we have to observe them for a long time. We have to look at their behavior, and we have to see how well they'd handle a situation as it comes up. This exactly what happened. They did not have to say anything about how they'd be able to help out, and how trustworthy they were. They just took initiative, and proved how trustworthy and helpful they are.

This is why we have a rule about asking to be staff. It is annoying, it only hurts their chances, and other than what I mentioned, there really is no set criteria to follow when it comes to who we are looking for. Asking for a promotion only eliminates that person chances, and if that person was banned after being given many, many chances to change their behavior, then this leaves that person with even less of a chance of being selected.

Coolman, not for nothing, I have seen you on other forums, and I have seen topics where the admins, and staff of other forums say that others should be on the look out because you are a troll and/or spammer. I have seen the same thing written in their signatures. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I am holding you accountable for things you've done there, because that would be like comparing apples, to oranges since every forum is different. But here, your reputation is not the greatest, and I'd be lying if I said that I didn't see the similarities in what they are saying, versus what you have done here and our reasons for warning or banning you. I've read what they've had to say, and knowing your past behavior here, it was as if it was written by one the staff here. Yes, you have been great so far, but that is not enough to go on. We need to see your behavior over time, rather than words, and that will take a while considering your track record here.

You guys may not realize this, but you, as members, are in the best position to help, because not only can you post, and start topics, but you can motivate others to do the same. If you start posting, then out of curiosity, others will end up reading your posts and will likely post replies or topics of their own. You guys can actually post and enjoy the forum, while having none of the responsibility of running it. The staff here, has to be concerned with running this forum, in addition to any others that we may have to run, being active, as well as having other obligations, since a lot of us are adults with responsibilities. We work, we go to school, and we have families that we have to take care of. That is not to say that we don't enjoy our jobs, and helping others, its just that we are not able to enjoy the forum as much as you guys.

If it were solely on the shoulders of the staff, to be active here, then eventually it gets to the point where it is just the staff talking amongst themselves in each topic here. Who is going to want to be on a forum where in each topic the staff, elites, and a small handful of members are talking amongst themselves while the newest or non posting members stay nothing, even though they log in every day?

The staff puts in a lot of work, and the elites, and a few members have put in a lot of effort as well. But what about the newest members, and the non posting members who can post topics asking when the next FFSX episode is coming out, or if they can use the Aeon sprite sheets, or saying how there isn't anything to talk about, but cannot seem to post topics of their own, or even reply to any of the topics we have here?

As I have said, the staff, and the other members have done, and are doing all they can to keep this place afloat, but you guys have to step up as well.. and if you are really dedicated, then you would not allow a usergroup to determine whether or not you can help out here. There have been members that were on probation, and still are that have been, and are still helpful here. If you are dedicated, then you would do what you could, regardless of whether or not you are on probation, because unless a person is in a group that is restricted from the media, mature, or the community sections here, then someone who is on probation, can do the same things as a regular member.

Keep that in mind.

And once again Black Angel proves her awesomeness with the truth of great justice with a natrual 20 to her Awesome Post roll.

*Made a D&D joke for the first time in a few months and is satisfied with it*

Um, does anyone mind telling me when coolman came back :blink:
or more importantly Why?

About the chat box thing, I dunno. I have been thinking of moving it back. As for spammers and such, they can get banned and everything. Wasn't that bad of a hassle, considering i can promote mods and such.

Let me explain the convenience of having it. Yeah, it may have taken eyes off of the main forum, but at the same time, it was EASIER to bring topics to notice. Second, communicating with other users was a breeze, without having to go all the way and check PMs. Also the box did attract more people. Plus it was easier for people looking for me to get a hold of me. Sometimes I have to say, this forum at times feel a bit too strict. At least the chatango made things interesting. As for lagging the forum, Since it was an embedded player totally different from this site, I found no lag. Also at the same token you have to figure, when i release a flash, it isn't a small file. If they can watch it and load it properly then there is no reason they couldn't come here. Its hard to say really.

Well before BDX, i was also about to mention how easy it would be to communicate with people. But i guess he beat me to it.

@BA: I was worried about making the wrong impression and making people think i just want to be promoted. Well the thing is, ive been asked to be promoted on sites before because you know, i helped out a lot. But most of the time i turn em down, because i know i dont hang on forums a lot. That is why i asked and being so persistant on the chatbox idea.
Mainly i just help out as much as i can and if i'm needed. i don't really care much about the promotions. But you put a pretty good point across Angel, and yeah ill keep it in mind.

I have a history with this place. So far back that I don't even remember when I joined. And when you consider when I joined, that's kinda sad.


If posting is the only option, I shall go on a posting frienzy. No worries, I can do it without spamming.


I hope.


No. I'm sure of it.


....>_>;

Well... If you're having trouble remembering when you joined... you could just look at the bottom of your avatar.. It informs you the date when you join exact.. including the year... 19-October 08 see. Lolz

if i may coolman, I once had a problem similar to yours. I came to hellblaze HQ for the sole reason of FFSX. I became the "phsyco-fan" about ffsx, annoyed the admins, and landed myself in restricted media for a few months. What you see before you is the new technogeek, the one who doesn't lurk in the ffsx forums. the one who trys to be of some help to the admins, and the one who tries to keep active in the community. I also once did the same thing you're doing. I tried to plead my case but to no avail. it won't work. the admins will take you off probation when they see fit. trust me on that. the best way to get off probation the quickest is to 1. stop whatever it is your doing that's landing you in that member group, make an absolute about face im talkin total 180 degree turn in the other direction. remain active in other topics and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However agree to disagree. that's how me and the eGF clan live. agree to disagree.

now now blazer.... there's no need for that. he was on a ban and hes back to hellblaze but on probation. to that I say welcome back and i hope you take my advice into consideration

...Im guessing coolman. did something... really. really.. bad... right?

idk what it was in deapth but hes back from a ban

It wasn't one thing, but a number of things altogether, however, that is water under the bridge.

Coolman has since apologized for his behavior, long before any other member had known of his return, I know, because he apologized to me on another forum.. and so, as long as no issues arise, I don't see why we can't let bygones be bygones.

Besides, he is not the only member to have made it back here after having been banned, but at the very least, he is the only one to not have made duplicate accounts to bypass his ban, in addition to, apologizing for his behavior. He is also the only one to return here after being banned, and WITH permission.

Ittts baaaaacccckkk.


Got a problem with it? Take it up with me.

Now, as for coolman, i dont remember what he did.

Well.. i may um. have. a.. minor.. problem... people that have to use crappy t-mobile usb wifi devices... like me..... cant go on chatango... (thats why i kept mentioning Xat.com) =[ srry to be a bug.

I don't remember what he did

I think it was during a quite quiet period

there was some sort of period when many people just disappeared. Like cloud and fish disappeared... and a few others I just remember them because they were the only people who RPed heavily like i did during a time.

I don't mind the chatango box... I actually enjoy it sometimes

Just people need to still post on the forum and not just chat

whining? I was simply helping you guys out, like I care about your silly titles, I mean I see this place as potential and after all my years of forum experience, I think I can change some stuff like for starters activity, I mean I wouldn't spend my last seconds of computer time typing up that message for nothing

I wasnt asking for staff, I mean I wouldnt give staff to some who just got back either

my reputation precieves me, but in all serious im not a spammer, some people are just highly emotional

yeah, cause I know you're smarter than that

it was mainly because that flame war I had with TK, you probally remember him, anyways it took like 3 forums just to stop me and thats why many people dont trust me in the forum industry but I cooled down and moved on from there

quality over quantity, its the internet, im sure yall could find millions of things to talk about


also lastly, I want to be renamed BHM instead of coolman

I highly doubt he meant that you were whining, rather than it was being used as an expression. And if you didn't care about the "silly" title, then you wouldn't have brought it up in your previous post. As I have said earlier, you can do the same things as a regular member.

I am very well aware of that. I was just putting it out there.

I agree with you to an extent, and I think that the staff resorting to use their signatures like that on other forums is very immature and unprofessional on their part.. however, I also remember what you've said and done here, and it was not because people were being "highly emotional." You've offended a lot of people, but you've at least apologized for it, so at least that tells me that you may not be the same person after all.

Yes, I am, but being smart hasn't as much to do with it as it does being fair.

Well, at least you've apologized for what you've done here, so at least that's a start.

Yes, I'm sure we could, but that is hardly the point. If we wanted to talk amongst ourselves, then we'd get a chatroom. The point of the forum is to give everyone a chance to talk to everyone. That is why I say that th new, the 0 posters and the non-posting members have to step up as well.

I'd be glad to do that for you, but once you are off probation.. I'll even note it in the name change thread, for the future, so that when you are off, I'll remember to change your name.. and if I didn't say it before, Welcome back. :)